Take a quick look at the following list:
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35 | Seconds |
| Yao Choong |
| Moelis & Co. |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 8/12/09 |
36 | Seconds |
| Alan Hsieh |
| Credit Suisse |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 8/18/08 |
36 | Seconds |
| David Berglas |
| Credit Suisse |
| Richard Ivey School of Business |
| 8/6/10 |
37 | Seconds |
| Olivia John |
| Blackstone |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 7/26/07 |
38 | Seconds |
| Austin Peterson |
| UBS |
| Duke University |
| 8/1/08 |
39 | Seconds |
| Jason Lee |
| Morgan Stanley |
| University of California - Berkeley |
| 8/1/08 |
39 | Seconds |
| Donald Zhang |
| Lazard |
| Dartmouth College |
| 7/24/09 |
40 | Seconds |
| Ang Lee |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| University of Pittsburgh |
| 7/20/07 |
40 | Seconds |
| Benjamin Rafetto |
| Société Générale |
| Dickinson College |
| 8/10/09 |
41 | Seconds |
| Robert Volpe |
| Morgan Stanley |
| Dartmouth College |
| 7/27/06 |
42 | Seconds |
| Shane Hwang |
| BofA |
| New York University |
| 7/24/08 |
42 | Seconds |
| Will Brugh |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| University of North Carolina |
| 7/25/08 |
43 | Seconds |
| Fernando Oura |
| Itau BBA |
| University of Sao Paulo |
| 12/18/09 |
44 | Seconds |
| Andy Cao |
| Citigroup |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 7/30/10 |
45 | Seconds |
| Raheem Choudhry |
| Morgan Stanley |
| University of Virginia |
| 7/27/06 |
45 | Seconds |
| Kevin Curry |
| Wachovia |
| Vanderbilt University |
| 6/27/07 |
47 | Seconds |
| Sam Lundin |
| Lazard |
| Cornell University |
| 8/10/07 |
47 | Seconds |
| Danny Pho |
| KeyBank |
| Case Western Reserve Univ. |
| 9/12/08 |
47 | Seconds |
| Jamie Harvey |
| Credit Suisse (Europe) |
| Oxford University |
| 8/28/09 |
48 | Seconds |
| Imran Choudhury |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| University of Richmond |
| 7/25/08 |
48 | Seconds |
| Mihail Ivanov |
| Société Générale |
| University of Chicago |
| 8/10/09 |
49 | Seconds |
| Jamie Seltzer |
| UBS |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 8/19/10 |
50 | Seconds |
| Goeffrey Adler |
| Barclays |
| Colgate University |
| 7/30/09 |
50 | Seconds |
| Sampath Jinadasa |
| Credit Suisse |
| Stanford University |
| 8/13/09 |
50 | Seconds |
| Shutong Zhang |
| Perella Weinberg |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 8/28/09 |
51 | Seconds |
| Keith Collins |
| Wachovia |
| Duke University |
| 7/14/06 |
51 | Seconds |
| Dusko Djukic |
| KeyBank |
| Case Western Reserve Univ. |
| 9/20/06 |
51 | Seconds |
| Zhou Zhang |
| Wachovia |
| Vanderbilt University |
| 6/27/07 |
51 | Seconds |
| Jackie Cobb |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| University of Michigan |
| 7/20/07 |
51 | Seconds |
| James Blanchard |
| UBS |
| Yale University |
| 8/3/07 |
51 | Seconds |
| Derek Weiss |
| William Blair & Co. |
| Dartmouth College |
| 7/10/09 |
51 | Seconds |
| Nate Barajas |
| William Blair & Co. |
| University of Illinois - Urbana C. |
| 7/9/10 |
51 | Seconds |
| Albert Chiang |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| UCLA |
| 7/22/10 |
52 | Seconds |
| Keima Ueno |
| Morgan Stanley |
| Tokyo University |
| 8/3/07 |
52 | Seconds |
| Dan Yu |
| Wells Fargo Securities |
| Wake Forest University |
| 7/21/10 |
52 | Seconds |
| Michael Burke |
| UBS |
| Duke University |
| 8/20/10 |
53 | Seconds |
| Thomas Akiyama |
| BofA |
| UC Berkeley |
| 7/30/04 |
53 | Seconds |
| Ivan La Frinere |
| Credit Suisse |
| California Institute of Technology |
| 8/18/06 |
53 | Seconds |
| Rawen Huang |
| Morgan Stanley |
| Yale University |
| 8/3/07 |
53 | Seconds |
| Matt Remsen |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| Kalamazoo College |
| 7/22/10 |
54 | Seconds |
| Greg Chory |
| BMO |
| Emory University |
| 8/8/08 |
54 | Seconds |
| Andrew Blickensderfer |
| KeyBank |
| Miami University (OH) |
| 9/12/08 |
54 | Seconds |
| Tom Fang |
| Walton Street Capital |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 7/23/10 |
55 | Seconds |
| Michael C Meng |
| Lazard |
| University of Michigan |
| 8/4/06 |
55 | Seconds |
| Jonathan Fisher |
| Royal Bank of Scotland |
| Miami University (OH) |
| 12/11/06 |
55 | Seconds |
| Roman Pedan |
| Walton Street Capital |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 7/23/10 |
55 | Seconds |
| Kevin Shiiba |
| Perella Weinberg |
| Georgetown University |
| 8/20/10 |
56 | Seconds |
| David Sokoler |
| Lazard |
| Harvard University |
| 8/4/06 |
56 | Seconds |
| Mike Moran |
| Jefferies & Co. |
| University of Pennsylvania |
| 7/25/08 |
57 | Seconds |
| Matt Collins |
| Credit Suisse |
| U. of Wisconsin |
| 8/26/05 |
58 | Seconds |
| Brent Frissora |
| BofA |
| Harvard University |
| 7/28/06 |
58 | Seconds |
| Mike Daylamani |
| Credit Suisse |
| Princeton University |
| 8/18/06 |
59 | Seconds |
| Tim Hannan * |
| Merrill Lynch |
| Tuck, Dartmouth |
| 10/11/07 |
59 | Seconds |
| Taylor Hendricks * |
| Morgan Stanley |
| Fuqua, Duke
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| 8/14/08 |
These are the record times to complete a financial modeling exercise in MS Excel. The exercise basically tests how much of an Excel ninja you are. Thousands of business majors and MBAs have tried it, so there's a pretty sizable sample of skilled folks giving it a shot.
It took me just over five minutes to complete after a couple rounds of practice. With some more work, I think I could get it done in under three, but any faster than that is realistically pushing it for my abilities (thank god I am NOT a finance guy).
If you do it in under a minute, your name goes on the wall. Have a cookie.
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That some people push very context-limited skills to their extremes is nothing new - witness Clark's track times on the original Mario Cart. I have no problem getting beat at such tasks/skills/tests by these people (though I'm proud to say that I have shown Clark Toad's rear bumper a time or two).
What I have a problem with is being told I can't even compete at something if I wanted to because I'm too old.
Becoming too old to compete in tests of skill you once could is a fact of life. Just ask Brett Favre. Or any female gymnast who can legally drink.
But it had never happened to me until yesterday.
After going through this exercise the moderator showed us the list above. He then pointed out that only two people on the list, out of about 60, are MBA students - and they're both right at the bottom. Sounds counter-intuitive, right? Afterall, to even be in an MBA program you have to have several years of work experience, and these peeps were likely financial analysts on Wall Street honing their Excel and modeling skills for a couple years in an environment where seconds matter. So why don't more make the cut?
Because, as the instructor explained, us MBAs are too old. By virtue of the fact that most of us are 6-10 years older than the 21 year-old financial phenoms on this list, our reflexes are actually measurably slower than theirs. "You're too slow, you old farts!"
And so at the ripe old age of 27 I was dealt my first ever "you're too old to hack it" moment. I fear this is the first in an ever growing cascade of such moments, until I'm finally too old to do anything at all and just die. I spent the rest of my Sunday evening pondering my own mortality during Simpsons commercial breaks.
Damn you MS Excel. Damn you financial modeling. Damn you 21 year-olds and your lightning fast reflexes.
I tried drinking with some college students who are part of our summer staff this weekend and had a similar thing happen. Except I waited until the morning to barf.
ReplyDeleteTotally kosher. That's just the equivalent of holding out till the offseason to heal. Not too old yet ;)
ReplyDeleteHi G Rat. Thanks for the nice post.
ReplyDeleteBtw, can you please tell me where did you get the list? I took the TTS's excel training session before and tried the excercise. My name should have been there but can not find.
Regards :)
You did that in under a minute!? Epic!
ReplyDeleteBut that also means you made me feel old. Not so epic ;)
I pulled this from the lead sheet of on of the data files they sent us to practice on. They've been nothing be helpful with me - try sending them an email and I'm sure they'll get back to you. The case looks like it was put together in Sept '10 so if you beat it after then that might be why.
P.S. Fitting name... ;)
I tried the exercise in Aug 2007, and got 42sec. But I was in a one month training course and practiced it without having lunch and dinner every day. So you don't have to feel old at all :)
ReplyDeleteWill send them an e-mail and ask why my name is not there.
Thank you :)
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